Elijah Hibbert of Oldham, England


Generation 2:i

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Elijah Hibbert b. 13 July 1800 d.10 March 1846 at Lyon House, Oldham. More information

Son of Joseph Hibbert and his unknown wife.

Married (1) 26 December 1822 Elizabeth 'Betty' Hilton d. 15 December 1864 [picture], daughter of A Hilton of Oldham (according Burke's County Families 1864).

They had the following children:

M i John Tomlinson b.5 January 1824 d.7 November 1908.
M ii Thomas Johnson d.9 June 1888 aged 59 at Broughton Grove, Field Broughton, Grange-over-Sands.
M iii Abraham Hilton life dates unknown.
M iv William life dates unknown.
M v James life dates unknown.
M vi Edward baptised 6 September 1838. Elijah's address given as "late of Cowhill Lodge, St Mary's Oldham"
M vii Henry b.20 July 1840 d.13 February 1913.

Elijah married (2) an unknown wife without having further children.

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Other Information

[Manchester Times and Gazette, Saturday, December 22, 1838 announces Elijah was asked but refused to be appointed magistrate.

[The Leeds Mercury, Saturday, February 2, 1839] Elijah elected to board of Liverpool and Manchester and Liverpool District Bank, which had been in difficulties.

[Manchester Times and Gazette, Saturday, February 2, 1839] Elijah seconds vote of thanks for speaker against the corn laws.

[The Charter, Sunday, May 26, 1839] Elijah sits with Rev. James Horborn in petit sessions to appoint 520 suitable inhabitants as special constables to deal with the Chartist threat.

[Manchester Times and Gazette, Saturday, March 29, 1845] Elijah attends fancy dress ball in Public Baths and wash-house on April 29 at the Free Trade Hall, at which the band of Mr Jullien is engaged, tickets 1 Guinea each

[Manchester Times and Gazette, Saturday, July 26, 1845] Oldham and Districty Railway Company advertises for capital, with Elijah top of the provisonal committee listing. Capital sought: £300,000

[From the National Archives] In 1770, blacksmith Henry Platt was building textile carding machinery in Dobcross, Saddleworth. His grandson Henry was born in 1793 and founded a similar concern in Uppermill in 1815. Five years later Henry junior moved to Oldham, and re-established the business at Huddersfield Road. In 1822 Henry Platt and Elijah Hibbert formed Hibbert and Platt. When Henry's sons Joseph and John [picture] joined the firm, it became Hibbert Platt & Sons. Henry Platt died in 1842, and Elijah Hibbert in 1854. His shares were acquired by the Platt family, the company becoming Platt Brothers & Company. A new factory site in Werneth, Hartford New Works, was first opened in 1844. The company transferred its headquarters there from the "Old Works" in 1868, upon taking limited liability status. John Platt died in 1872, by which time the company employed 7,000 men. It became the largest machine-making firm in the world. During the 1890s an estimated 42% of Oldham's population was supported by the company [ website] [industry in C19th Oldham].

[John 'Jock' P.M. Hibbert spent a lot of time trying to prove that Elijah's mother (or grandmother?) was a 'warming pan baby' from the Earls of Atholl, bearing out a supposed Murray connection.

There was certainly a connection between the Ware-Hibberts and the Murrays, as on page 493 of A Genealogical and Heraldic History of Great Britain it mentions "WARE-HIBBERT, SAMUEL, M.daughter of Edinburgh, b. 21st April, 1782; m. first, 23rd July, 1804, Miss Sarah Crompton, of Bury, Lancashire, and by her, who died 13th April, 1822, had issue,"

"Titus Hibbert, 1. 17th September, 1810.

William Hibbert, b. 15th April, 1812, in the medical service of the army.

Sarah Hibbert."

"He married, secondly, 8th January, 1825, Charlotte-Wilhelmina, eldest daughter of Lord Henry Murray, son of John, 3rd Duke of Atholl, and by her, who died 1st August, 1835, has issue, Robert Green b.18 May 1826, Elizabeth-Jessie b.18 January 1833 and George-Henry b.9 November 1834"]

London Gazette Issue 19999 published on the 16 July 1841 page 1867

"NOTICE is hereby given, that the agreement subsisting between Elijah Hibbert and John Mayall, for working and turning the Cotton Mill or Factory belonging to them, situate at Hey, in the parish of Ashton-under-Line, in tire county of Lancaster, was put an end to, by mutual consent, on the 29th day of May 1838, at which time the share of the said Elijah Hibbert in the said mill, and the steam engines, boilers, steam pipes, and going geer therein, was let to the said John Mayall; and that the said mill or factory has been since the said period, and will continue to be worked and turned by the said John Mayall on his own account.— Dated the 29th day of June 1841. E. HIBBERT. JOHN MAYALL."

London Gazette Issue 19828 published on the 21 February 1840 page 397

"NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership lately subsisting and carried on by us the undersigned, Abraham Lees, James Lees, Daniel Hilton, James Greaves, Elijah Hibbert, James Colling John Lancashire, and Philip Norelli, as Coal-Merchants and Coal-Miners, at Swine Clough, within Oldham, in the county of Lancaster, under the firm of Abraham Lees and Company, was dissolved by Mutual consent, on the 14th day of-February instant.
Dated this 17th day of February 1840
Abraham Lees.
James Lees.
Daniel Hilton..
James Greaves..
Elijah Hibbert.
James Callings.
John Lancashire.
B. Novell."

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Betty Hilton, wife of Elijah Hibbert

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John Platt, partner of Elijah Hibbert

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Hibbert cotton machines at the 1851 Great Exhibition at Crystal Palace

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Notes on sources

Anderson family tree

Information is largely taken from the book 'The Andersons of Peterhead'. This was based on the records made by John Anderson 1825/1903 [VIII 32], known as 'China John'. This was brought up to date in 1936 by Cecil Ford Anderson [X 17] and Agnes Donald Ferguson [CS 45 X b]. Many photographs were taken and compiled in an album by Olive Edis (daughter of Mary Murray, daughter of Andrew Murray (2) of Aberdeen).

Forrest family tree

Iain Forrest kindly supplied material to update the Forrest family (progeny of William Forrest) details and corrections to both Janet Innes Anderson's and Alexander Murray's death dates.

Hibbert family tree

The information is largely taken from a tree compiled by F.B. (she knows who she is!) with extra material found by the author.

Murray family tree

The 'Genealogical Table showing various branches of the Murray family', from which this information was taken, was prepared by Alexander Murray of Blackhouse, extended by Andrew Murray - advocate - Aberdeen circa 1880 and further extended by Arthur Murray Watt 1972. The generational notation is the author's.

Pike family tree

Information from family sources as well as 'Burke's Landed Gentry' 1875

And the rest

Thanks also to all who have written in with information, advice, help and, most importantly, corrections.

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16 February, 2010