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REFERENCE SOURCES
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The Songs and Ditties given on this web site are extracted from material collected by Barry E. Scott either during his naval service or in the process of compiling this text. Many of the songs have also been sent to him by ex- Royal Naval Men for inclusion in the project. As such they come directly from the voices of those who sang them.

Details of the sources are given in the text of each song. Such comment enables the reader to seek out further information and references and where possible comment on their usage. To extend this situation and access the voices of those men who have long since passed over the bar.  I have searched literally thousands of manuscript diaries and letters etc in the expectation of locating similar reference. In this case the songs are generally sans-tune but as they are noted by the men that sang them, they can still effectively be said to come from their voice or more exactlyr the hand of the performer. In similar vein, much use has again been made of the printed autobiographies of ex RN personnel.

 Occasionally reference can also be found in other sources. In such situations the merit of the item can only be assessed from the context in which it appears. Such third hand report includes the various published song books that were produced both by the Admiralty and private companies to attract the interest of the sailor and according to the admiralty served to improve on the type of songs that circulated. Such song books are found in printed format and occassionaly (circa WW2) were produced on roll film to be projected on to the ships cinema screen etc. Where readers pocess such printed volumes, I would be pleased to hear from them with a list of their titles and contents, as only by such methods can we be sure of the current survival of suchitems and the extent of their publication. Though these published works are of much interest; their contents cannot beseen as prime evidence of the type of song favoured by the RN lower deck sailor but more the type of song their officers would have liked them to sing.   Undoubtedly some of the content of these songsters contained songs popular with the men, but in many cases they were classed with the type of music such as used at church services and seldom sung elsewhere than in 'organised assembly', They must therefore only be assessed alongside contemporary evidence pertaining to a songs popularity. Because classed amongst this latter were most of the commercial songs written by professional song writers such as Charles Dibden. However some of these items particularly during WW1 did occasionally find favour. Here we can nominate Tom Bowling and I'm a Stoker, as well as several of the music hall and sentimental songs which were well used in ships concert and sods opera. 

Finally of absolute top importance is the survival of manuscript and typescript song, ditty or poetry volumes compiled by the sailor. At best access to their contents are eagerly anticipated and worst a description of their contents will be eagerly accepted.

COPYRIGHT - In all cases - the reader is directed to these sources for addittional information and no partof them is used without proper copyright permission. That said many of the songs are in the public domain, but musicians should always make their own assessment as to what use can be made of any of the songs given here. All musical arrangements given or used within this site are copyright to myself.

In providing a list of my references, I can do no better than to begin with the principle work on this subject and a must have for all enthusiasts is

TAWNEY,Cyril (1987) Grey Funnel Lines – Traditional Song & Verse of the Royal Navy 1900 –1970 London  ISBN 0-7102-1270-4

PRIMARY REFERENCES

SCOTT, Barry E. Songs and Ditties of the Royal Navy & Royal Marines (unpublished)

ROYAL NAVY DESK REFERENCES - Music

HMS Heron Rugby Football Club 'Dit' Book (Circa 1990)  - One of private printing containing 28 songs. From naval ditties to several bawdy rugby songs and a couple of traditional Folk Songs.

ROYAL NAVY REFERENCE - Auto Biographical

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ROYAL NAVY REFERENCE - Historical

HMS Andromide In the Log of HMS Andromide 1904-06, Published by the Naval Log Series (Copy Portsmouth Naval Library.)

OTHER REFERENCE - Music

HUGIL, Stan Shanties from the Seven Seas: Shipboard work-songs &c.1994 Mystic Seaport Museum ISBN 0-913372-70-6

PALMER, Roy Boxing the Compass : Sea Songs and Shanties 2001 Heron Publishing ISBN 0-9540682-0-3

 

 
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