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Samuel M Austin

From time to time, Sam will send me an article containing his views on campanology, enjoy:

Contents:

Sam on Variations

Sam on Illegal Methods

Sam on Methods PII


Sam on Variations

According to Central Council rules, a variation only applies to doubles. A variation is a plain doubles method with a different call. The Friends of Derick Obergene Society believe that variations should be allowed on any number of bells.

"Ah" you may say "but what about 8ths place calls in Bristol Royal? Is that a variation?"

The answer is "no" because the effect of a variation is that it not only changes the Place Notation at the lead end but before and/or after the lead end as well, sometimes up to four changes before and/or after. An eighths place call in Bristol Royal would only change the lead end notation but with a Grandsire single in Plain Bob Triples, the notation would change before and after the lead end too. (This variation is called April Day)

e.g.
notation from

7.1.7.1.7.1.7.1.7.1.7.1.7.127
to
7.1.7.1.7.1.7.1.7.1.7.1.3.123.3

"But isn't that just Plain Bob and Grandsire Spliced every time there is a call?" you may ask. The answer is "Well Yes it is but it is more fun ringing it as a variation."

One of the characteristics of Doubles variations is that each variation only has one type of call. This does not extend to other stages quite as easily.

Take for example Southrepps Doubles. This is a doubles variation and consists of Reverse Canterbury Doubles with Plain Bob Bobs. The problem arises when one would like to ring Southrepps Minor. Unfortunately, there are no extents of Reverse Canterbury Minor (Single Canterbury for the purists) with plain bob bobs so this variation does not exist on six bells.

Some Minor variations that have been rung are

April Day Minor - Plain Bob with Grandsire Singles
Eynsham Minor - St Clements with Grandsire Singles  (This is taken from St Simons Doubles with Grandsire singles but as St Clements is a logical extension of St Simons {without two hunters} the name can remain)
Kitchener Griffiths the name on everybody's lips Minor -  Buxton Bob Minor with Grandsire Singles
Third Please Gordon Minor - Buxton Bob Minor with Single Canterbury Singles.

Take no notice of the Central Council. They are trying to abolish variations, but like the government with fox hunting, they don't know what they are doing or why they are doing it.

Aye

Sam Austin 19/10/04
 


Sam on Illegal Methods

This page was created as a source of information of illegal methods.

Methods the Central Council do not recognize are not recorded in any form. This page hopes to keep a record of all illegal methods rung and as or when the CC changes it's mind, the original names of the methods can remain.

Singles

All singles methods are illegal. The reason being there are no "methods on 3"

Shipping Forecast Singles. Each change rung 3 times

123
213
231
213
123
132
312
321
231
213
123
132
312
321
231
321
312
132
123
Rung at Liverpool Cathedral June 2000

More to follow.

Minimus

The CC only recognises methods with 24changes per course (except little methods)

Kent and Oxford have 48changes. Each change repeated
Bristol - Good fun

Minor

Double Stromboli Bob 3.1.25.1.4.5, le 2 (135264);
Richard's False Course -4-3-3-23-4-1 (152346);
Great Grandsire -1-1-1, le 4 (123564).

Mersey Ferry Jump Change Minor

Mersey Ferry Treble Jump Minor:
(13)4.(35)-(64)3.(42)-

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231465
324615
236451
326145
312654
136245
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Also Dixon's bob minor which is a rule based method.

Plain Hunt

14 made when bells two or four lead

12 made when treble leads.
The plain course is 64 changes long.

Phil Earis's site gives more info on these methods.

http://ringing.8bit.co.uk/

More to follow.

Aye

Sam


Sam on Methods Part II

Don Morrison wrote a couple of weeks ago in the RW an article on quarter peal ringers.

The jist of it was that quarter peal ringers should be allowed to name a method at any stage and not just minor and below. I'm surprised that no-one has passed any comment on it. What do you all think?

My opinions are:

1. That a quarter peal is a good benchmark to be able to name a method but I think that any band ringing a just a course of a method should also be able to name it.

2. Spliced - In a touch of spliced, at least a course of the new method has to be rung within the touch before naming it or else a quarter peal involving the new method to name it.

When the ringers of the 17th Century were practicing Grandsire and Plain Bob, they didn't ring a peal of it before naming them did they?

Also with triples and below, one has to ring an extent to name the method but with major and above, a peal is considered a suitable benchmark for ringers. More ringers ring quarter peals than peals (Morrison, D ) which is another reason why ringers who don't ring peals should have the right to name methods of triples and above.

I'm not trying to knock the work of the methods committee here, in fact I appreciate and use frequently the provisional method names page so at least they aren't disregarding non peal ringers completely.

Sam Austin, June 13th 2005

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