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frequently asked questions about On Call

page last updated 30.09.2009

How is the Order able to work non-denominationally when its members come from such a diverse variety of traditions?

1 Corinthians, chapter 12 clearly states that there is only one church/body with Christ as is its head. People have caused it to be divided and fragmented through misunderstanding, dissent, jealousy, politics and power struggles. All we are doing is returning back to that original position and showing that it can work.

 

Do other denominations have problems with this position?

Yes. Some of our members do suffer and some smaller churches and groups have disallowed their members from becoming or being members of the Order.

Those churches who do not support the ordination of women for example certainly have problems with their members joining On Call as On Call supports the ordination of women. The Order's position is quite simple - God calls who God calls and that is sufficient.

Other problems come from the fact the Order was set up in 1999 and is relatively new and is generally unfamiliar to people. The ministry it offers is a little different from that offered by the main stream churches. Despite this, the work and reputation of the Order is growing.

 

Does the work of the Order cut across the work already being done by main stream churches?

Overall, no. Members of the Order frequently find themselves working in areas that are not generally being managed by the main stream churches. We do a lot of work with those who have lost touch with the church or have been denied ministry or sacraments by the church.

Our role is to minister to their immediate needs and then help them move on in their faith journeys or help them find a group or church that can best meet their needs. This work was once described as 'rounding up the lost sheep and finding homes for them'. Although a little over simple it is fairly accurate.

It isn't the only work we are involved in as you will have probably seen as you visit other parts of the web site. Our members are increasingly involved in supporting the work of their local churches which helps avoid cutting across work already being done, but as yet this tends to be more the exception rather than the rule. Some main stream clergy still feel that the Order has yet to prove itself but it is happening.

 

Is the Order a part of 'Churches Together'?

The Order is not a church or denomination but an ecumenical/non-denominational community so it cannot register as a full member, but it could potentially register as a 'Body in Association'.

The Order would like to be in discussion with Churches Together regarding becoming a 'body in association' but, so far, Churches Together have not engaged in any meaningful dialogue and the Order is still waiting for replies to communications, some outstanding for over twelve months.

The Order has been in contact with both Churches Together England and Ireland (CTEI), and Churches Together England (CTE). Of the two bodies, CTE had initially been the most helpful and open, and whilst the Order unreservedly does acknowledge and appreciate their initial interest and assistance, it notes the closing of ranks and the lack of communication on Churches Together's part.

The current situation is that even though the Order wishes to support and be a part of Churches Together in some way, it is not able to do or be so. It may be that On Call still needs to prove its worth as a community and charity even though it is involved in ministry at local, national and international levels.

 

Do your members have churches of their own?

If you mean 'do they operate from a church building?' then some do, but many choose not to. It generally depends on the sponsoring tradition that each member come from and whether they are already responsible for a church.

Many members choose to work from within the community they are a part of and do not need a church building as the central focus for their ministry. They still manage house groups and small communities without the need for a specific church building by meeting in people's homes or borrowing or hiring rooms.

It is generally accepted by all traditions that the church proper is made up of people, not buildings, so this is consistent with the Christian ministry.

 

What happens when there is a conflict of interest?

This does sometimes happen.

There are two issues to be considered - pastoral need and being obedient to one's sponsoring tradition (or bishop!). Each member has to decide for themselves what is the best course of action but we advise as a general rule that no member takes a course of action which brings either their own faith, tradition or the Order into disrepute. It does mean that two members might respond quite differently to similar conflicts of interests but this is accepted providing each acts faithfully.

From experience, the Order is more than happy to allows members to 'pass on work' to other members if they feel that they cannot offer 100% support or there is a conflict of interest.

 

Will the Order do 'gay weddings'?

The Civil Partnership Bill makes it quite clear that a civil partnership is nothing more than a legally binding agreement between two people of the same gender which gives them the same legal and financial protection as a married couple. It is not a wedding but a civil matter and unlike a wedding is neither sacramental or requires consummation. It is therefore falls outside of the work of the Church.

Our members have been strongly advised that it is not appropriate to be involved in blessing civil partnerships, either directly or indirectly, and may take appropriate action against members who choose to ignore this advice.

 

You say you are non-denomination, but what denomination are you really?

We really are non-denominational and will go out to anybody at anytime anywhere with the Love of God. We don't deal in denominational dogma of any kind. People matter more than this and our approach is consistent with scripture.

When Jesus commanded mankind to 'love God and love your neighbour', there was no clause that added 'so long as they are Church of England, Roman Catholic, (or even Christian!), etc'.

It was plain and simple - love (as defined in 1 Corinthians 13 verses 4 -8) must be extended to all people regardless of social background, ethnicity, education, spirituality, status, etc. We don't do 'denominations'.

 

Can anyone receive communion?

Anyone who shows some understanding of what communion is or represents is welcome to receive communion from any of our members so long as they receive with good intention and do not hold the body and blood of Christ in disrespect or contempt. It is not a requirement that those who receive are confirmed.

The tradition of the Roman Catholic Church is that re-married divorced people are forbidden to receive (see CTS Essentials 'Who can receive communion?') - we believe that this position does not reflect the grace and forgiveness found within the Love of God and will never refuse anyone this sacrament.

 

What about women priests?

We believe that God calls whom God calls and it is not for us to stand in His way. We will support, encourage and assist where we can all those whose calling to ministry is discerned.

This principle is held very strongly within the Order.

Applicants who do not personally support the ordination of women or cannot accept their ministry will be unlikely to be offered membership of the Order.

 

What denominations do your members come from?

Catholic to protestant, high church to low church, traditionalists to reformers - and we all get on. Our concern is in completing the work Christ set before us with one mind and that is our focus.

 

Do your clergy have different ranks and titles like other churches?

Clergy have no special titles or roles other than the Executive Bishop (Bishop Michael), who is the head of the Order, and up to two assistant bishops, of which there is just one (Bishop Ian) at the moment.

There are a number of people who use the title given to them by their sponsoring tradition, but these titles carry no weight, or give the right of special responsibilities, power, authority or jurisdiction within the Order. Titles are no guarantee of quality of ministry, but in contrast, good quality ministry speaks for itself, so titles are un-necessary.

There is a saying in On Call, 'If you need a title to do your job, you are not doing it properly, but if you are doing your job properly, you will never need a title.' There are some who make much of their titles but offer little in return.

As an Order, we recommend that our members are simply known as Reverend, Pastor, Father, or Brother or Sister if members come from religious communities. We also recommend that when our members work under the 'On Call' banner, they do not use the titles given by their sponsoring traditions as this can cause confusion. As our ministry is one of service and humility, titles have little function or lasting value and are therefore unnecessary.

Plain and simple works best for us.

 

What kind of training do your members receive?

Our members are made up of clergy from many different denominations and they are trained by them. We do however expect our members to continue in their formation and an increasingly large number of training and learning resources are made available to members, many of which have been tried and tested by other Christian organizations, communities and churches from all over the world.

We also try to provide resources from various agencies to individual members for specialist areas areas of ministry, for example health care chaplaincy, counselling, PTSD etc, when requested. Members also receive training from outside agencies but this is largely done on a voluntary basis and is specific to their own forms of ministry.

Some of the members of the Order are highly qualified in their own field of expertise and do occasionally arrange courses when they feel there is a need or benefit to other members.

 

Does the Order follow a form of 'rule' like the Fransiscans or Benedictines?

Yes we do. The Order follows 'the Rule of Simplicity' which can be found by clicking the highlighted link. It is mostly a rule of spirituality although it covers some practical matters.

In part, the Order's rule follows some revised Benedictine practices but the rule is there to support ministry rather than be its focus.

 

Does 'On Call' maintain the traditions of the church?

Yes, so long as those traditions still have meaning and relevence and providing that they do not cause division amongst people or become of greater importance than serving God or God's people.

 

Does your Order have a professional code of conduct?

Yes we do, and it runs along side the Order's Rule of Simplicity. When the Order receives new applications from clergy, they must give assent to the Principles and Guidelines of the Order, The Rule of Simplicity, the Order's Child Protection Policy and also the Order's professional code of conduct. If applicants cannot give their assent to all of these then their application is rejected.

The Code of Professional Conduct covers most aspects of the work of a priest and is very similar to the one used by the Church of England. The code is found in the Order's Handbook along will all other key documents. Part has also been published on this web site and covers the interfacing between members of the Order and those they minister to. Click here for a link to the Code of Professional Conduct Summary web page or download it via the document download links on the 'home page'..

 

What happens if any of the Order's members behave unprofessionally?

Any member who is proved beyond reasonable doubt to bring either the Order or the faith into disrepute will have their membership terminated without appeal. We take our vocation and ministry seriously and will respond firmly and quickly. The reputation of the Order is something to be protected and honoured by all its members and unprofessional conduct will not and cannot be tolerated. This includes anything outlined by the Professional Code of Conduct and also behaviour that reflects badly on or is contrary to the servant nature of our priesthood.

Although the Code of Conduct covers much of what is expected of members at a general level, other aspects of what is and is not considered to be appropriate professional conduct will be confirmed by the Order's bishops or may be referred to the Order's Executive Council.

 

Is there an official complaints procedure should any member behave unprofessionally?

Yes there is. The complaints procedure is outlined on the Order's website and can be accessed by clicking this link. The complaints procedure can be activated by any members of the public (or by other members of the Order) providing any complaint is submitted in writing unless there are extenuating circumstances, e.g. protection of identity, issues relating to information given in priestly confidence, etc.

 

Do your members have CRB checks?

All applicants are required to have CRB checks and members are expected to keep theirs reasonably up to date.

Those applicants and members who have, will or may have a ministry amongst the more vunerable members of society must have a current full CRB check and from 2010 must additionally be ISA (Independent Safeguarding Authority) registered.

The only exception to this applies or will apply to members who are no longer in active ministry.

 

I am not clergy but would like to be part of what the Order is doing. Is there some way I can belong.

Ministry Support Team membership is for those who would like to give their general support to On Call and to the work of the charity. The application form is simple and straight forward.

 

I would like to help with the charity work the Order but not be involved in the other areas the Order is involved in. Is there a place for me?

As part of the Ministry Support Team, you can choose to focus purely on your own Christian ministry, or simply by raising the profile of the charity as a speaker and/or raising funds.

There are lots of different ways the latter can be done, for example by developing printed materials, putting together short talks for different age groups, arranging information displays and local fund raising activities ranging from coffee mornings to direct sponsorship of children or projects.

You may also be involved in letting the charity trustees know of local groups who need financial and/or other support that fall within the charity objects (the different areas On Call has agreed with the Charity Commission to work in). You would be directly responsible to the charity trustees for a specific geographical area and would liaise with them about your activities.

There is plenty of scope for those who are willing to be innovative and try new ideas out - the main requirements are enjoyment of this kind of work, honesty, enthusiasm, good, creative thinking, good communication skills and have an interesting and infectious personality.

 

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