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Finding your way around this page
This is a very long page. All the 23 day's details are here in order but the simplest
way to locate the route details for a particular day is to go to
the route map page and click on the right spot
on the map. Then use the browser's back arrow (top left if you are
using Explorer) to return to the map page to locate further days.
Rights of Way
Virtually all the route described below lies on legal rights of way
(the few bits that don't
cross open moorland where there is a tradition of unimpeded access). This means
that no one can legally stop you from following the route.
As you may already know
(from bitter experience) not all
rights of way shown on the map can be easily followed. Some have become
densely vegetated, bridges are broken down and farmers have placed barbed wire (illegally)
to prevent cattle from straying.
We have therefore taken a lot of trouble to make sure that all rights of way
described below can be followed at present and where there are special difficulties
they are mentioned in the accompanying notes.
There will be places where an inviting looking right of way shown on the map
appears to offer a better way than the one suggested. It may, indeed, do just
that but it is very likely that we tried it and found it to be blocked.
Do try it, if you wish to take the risk of having to retrace your steps and if
you are successful, or if you have any other comments to make, please email me, Michael Slaney, by clicking
here
Day 1 - St David's to Trefine
distance from St David's 0.0 Km
| St Davids cathedral SM |
751 254 |
| roads in close |
0.5 |
Penitents' bridge |
752 257 |
| path - 'Pilgrims' Way' |
0.9 |
road B4583 |
757 262 |
| B4583 |
0.2 |
junction |
758 261 |
| minor road |
1.9 |
Rhodiad |
768 274 |
| path |
0.9 |
Rhos y gors |
760 277 |
| minor road |
1.0 |
track on right |
765 281 |
| track |
0.5 |
minor road |
768 285 |
| minor road |
0.4 |
Treleidr |
766 286 |
| path |
0.7 |
coastal path |
764 292 |
| coastal path |
7.0 |
Abereiddy |
798 313 |
| coastal path |
3.2 |
Porth Gain |
815 326 |
| coastal path ; |
2.9 |
Trevine (old mill) ; |
834 324 |
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You could stay
several days in this atmospheric little city, arranging transport to return each night. (For accommodation here and at the other places on the route, see the
accommodation page)
There are many possible ways to start your walk; the one described
leaves the Cathedral by the historic pilgrims' path, passing the Penitents'
bridge and Feidr dwyll (the dark lane). Just before Rhodiad, the path
meets the Ffôs y Mynach, the Monks' dyke, a raised path separating the "sacred" part
of the area from the rest.
The Pembrokeshire coast path is reached at 764 292.
A comfortable day with no navigational problems |
total for day 20.1 Km
distance from St David's 20.1 Km
Day 2 - Trevine to Pont-tre-tefa
distance from St David's 20.1 Km
| start at Trevine (old mill) SM |
834 324 |
| coastal path |
4.8 |
Abercastle |
853 337 |
| coastal path |
5.0 |
Aber Mawr (north end) |
883 348 |
| 'white road' |
1.3 |
Pont Fawr |
892 348 |
| road via Tre-llys Hill |
2.1 |
bridleway crossing |
906 355 |
| path via standing stone |
1.2 |
Rhos Clegyr |
916 355 |
| path |
0.6 |
Clegyrn |
916 360 |
| farm access track |
0.9 |
A487 |
920 342 |
| A487 |
0.2 |
bridleway |
918 341 |
| bridleway |
0.7 |
minor road |
921 336 |
| minor road |
0.2 |
farm track |
921 334 |
| farm access track |
1.0 |
Hendrefach |
930 335 |
| path over railway bridge |
0.3 |
minor road |
932 335 |
| minor road |
0.5 |
Pont tre tefa |
930 332 |
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The Pembrokeshire Coast Path is followed to Aber Mawr and, as soon as
it is left, paths shown on the map cease to exist on the ground. We were completely unable
to follow our original chosen route in two places (no bridge and serious standing water) but
the alternative given here which we eventually adopted is relatively
straightforward with some barbed wire to climb in a few places near 918 341.
Easy walking with some careful navigation needed towards the end of the day.
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total for day 18.8
distance from St David's 38.9 Km
Day 3 - Pont-tre-tefa to Ty-gwyn
distance from St David's 38.9 Km
| start at Pont-tre-tefa SM/SN |
930 332 |
| bridleway |
2.3 |
Scleddau |
944 342 |
| minor road |
1.6 |
Ffynonstown |
953 352 |
| bridleway |
1.8 |
Crinei Brook |
969 355 |
| path via Llaneast |
1.7 |
Cilgelynen Wood |
978 347 |
| path through Cilgelynen Wood |
1.4 |
minor road |
989 347 |
| minor road |
0.3 |
B4313 |
991 348 |
| B4313 |
0.7 |
corner |
998 350 |
| minor road in Cwm Gwaun |
3.3 |
Dyffryn Arms |
027 341 |
| minor road in Cwm Gwaun |
1.3 |
Dan Coed turn off |
036 340 |
| bridleway via Penralltddu |
2.3 |
Ty-gwyn |
055 339 |
| bridleway and road |
0.2 |
path to Berth Gwynne |
055 338 |
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There appears to be a better route on the map passing through
954 347 on a clear
right of way but it is blocked by bog and vegetation which
we found to be impassable. The route given here is easy, however
until 969 355 where care is needed,
with a crucial
problem at 978 347, the entrance to Cilgelynen Wood. You must
find the correct opening to the wood after crossing an area of
open country (here a GPS would be useful). Look for a stile just inside the wood.
Do not miss the Dyffryn Arms in the peaceful and beautiful Gwaun Valley at 026 341, a famous pub run
by Bess, a well-known local figure who serves beer from a jug!
An interesting day concluding
with a lovely, short climb out of the Gwaun Valley towards the Preseli Mountains |
total for day 16.9
distance from St David's 55.8 Km
Day 4 - Ty-gwyn to Crymych
distance from St David's 55.8 Km
| start near Ty-gwyn SN |
055 338 |
| bridleway and open moorland |
2.3 |
Foel Eryr |
066 321 |
| path |
1.0 |
B4329 |
075 322 |
| bridleway |
6.3 |
Carn Bica |
130 325 |
| bridleway |
4.2 |
road near Llainbanal |
167 332 |
| minor road |
1.7 |
A478 at Crymych |
180 333 |
| A478 |
0.7 |
Crymych centre |
183 340 |
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Day 4 is a top-class, invigorating trek across the Preseli
ridge, the old drovers' Golden Road, with no problems of any sort, even in mist.
Do not miss the site of the Stonehenge blue-stones at Carn Menyn
(142 324); sit and speculate on how they reached Salisbury Plain. |
total for day 16.2 Km
distance from St David's 72.0 Km
Day 5 - Crymych to old school near Morlogws Uchaf
distance from St David's 72.0 Km
| start at Crymych SN |
183 340 |
| A478 northwards |
0.3 |
junction |
184 342 |
| road eastwards |
0.3 |
start of track |
186 341 |
| track then path |
2.0 |
edge of N Pembs map |
200 335 |
| edge of map 185 |
0.9 |
Penlan Isaf |
208 335 |
| bridle way |
1.6 |
Glogue |
216 325 |
| road eastwards |
0.6 |
right angle bend |
222 325 |
| track via Llwyn yr Hwrdd |
1.8 |
school near Tegryn |
234 329 |
| road (0.1Km) then path |
0.9 |
Pant Dwfn farm |
239 334 |
| track |
0.5 |
Pant Dwfn Isaf |
240 337 |
| track, path, minor road |
1.6 |
Star |
246 350 |
| minor road |
1.0 |
church Tyddyn yr Eglwys |
251 355 |
| bridleway |
0.8 |
Nant-y-castell |
257 354 |
| farm access road |
0.4 |
minor road |
257 351 |
| minor road |
2.8 |
Cwmcych (P.H.) |
276 362 |
| minor road |
2.7 |
Cwmorgan |
294 349 |
| 'white road' by Afon Cych |
1.4 |
confluence of streams |
294 337 |
| scramble then path |
0.6 |
Morlogws Isaf |
298 337 |
| path via Morlogws Uchaf |
1.1 |
Old school |
306 335 |
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The next two-and-a-half days of walking traverse pleasant farming country
where walkers are rarer than red kites. There are no signs or stiles but
farmers are pleasant and helpful, provided that you are courteous and do not
stray far from rights of way. Navigation is tricky and there is much
barbed wire to be negotiated and wet valley bottoms to cross.
Difficulties start immediately on leaving Bwlch Clawdd Mawr
farm (187 339); be punctilious in following the green line and do not wear your best trousers.
The only other serious difficulty is around 294 337 where you may have to
force a route uphill left and through a wood to emerge on open fields with
Morlogws Isaf in sight ahead
If you like this sort of thing you will find the day very enjoyable! |
total for day 21.3 Km
distance from St David's 93.3 Km
Day 6 - Old school near Morlogws Uchaf to Bancyfford
distance from St David's 93.3 Km
| start at Old school SN |
306 335 |
| minor road past Penwaun farm |
0.4 |
cross roads |
308 336 |
| farm access track |
0.5 |
Ty hen |
312 333 |
| path (becoming non-existent) |
0.2 |
confluence of streams |
313 332 |
| path (non existent) |
0.6 |
Blaensylgen |
317 329 |
| farm access track |
1.2 |
B4299 |
328 331 |
| B4299 north eastward |
0.5 |
'white road' |
332 334 |
| 'white road' |
0.8 |
Rhyd y gwyn |
340 333 |
| B4333 |
0.4 |
path on left |
343 332 |
| path via Nantsais |
1.4 |
road |
350 337 |
| path |
1.1 |
Blaenantgwyn |
361 338 |
| farm access track |
0.4 |
road |
361 342 |
| minor road south east |
0.1 |
farm access on left |
362 342 |
| farm tracks past Rhyd yr onw |
1.9 |
road |
367 356 |
| minor road |
2.3 |
Rhos |
380 355 |
| minor road |
0.6 |
farm access on right |
384 357 |
| farm track then obscure |
0.6 |
road |
386 353 |
| minor road |
0.4 |
T-junction |
390 353 |
| minor road |
2.7 |
Rhydybennau |
391 375 |
| path (ploughed away) |
0.5 |
road |
396 375 |
| minor road south east |
0.6 |
path on left |
400 371 |
| path past Cnwc-yr-eithin |
1.3 |
road |
405 379 |
| minor road |
0.5 |
Bancyffordd |
409 377 |
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The general notes for yesterday also apply today (only more so!)
On leaving Ty hen by an encouraging stile, go downhill,
slightly left, enter thick undergrowth and locate,
313 332 a beautiful and crucial spot where two streams meet. Follow the right of way (unmarked)
carefully but deviate left (as the farmer has blocked the legal route) just before reaching Blaensylgen. Things then get easier
until the path runs through an almost impenetrable
wood at 358 338 where discretion suggest following an illegal alternative
through the fields to the right.
(The valley
bottom at 373 354 looks interesting but we found it impenetrable)
The final difficulty is reached at 395 377
where, after crossing a
trackless field, a thick hawthorn hedge is
crossed with a big drop on the far side. Here the writer of these
notes had a brush with a working muck-spreader.
You may find navigation difficult today; tomorrow is little better but, after
that, things become relatively straightforward! |
total for day 19.0 Km
distance from St David's 112.3 Km
Day 7 - Bancyfford to Rhydcymerau
distance from St David's 112.3 Km
| start at Bancyffordd SN |
409 377 |
| farm access |
0.4 |
Blaencwm Farmyard |
414 375 |
| permissive route (right of farm) |
0.5 |
stile in corner of field |
417 376
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| way-marked path/track |
0.7 |
Cwm Gwyddil ford |
419 382 |
| path |
0.1 |
Pen Pyn Farch |
421 383 |
| path |
0.3 |
T-junction |
420 380 |
| path |
0.7 |
road |
427 381 |
| minor road south |
0.7 |
path on left |
428 375 |
| path via Pen-y-graig |
1.6 |
footbridge |
438 383 |
| path via Ty Newydd |
1.0 |
road |
444 384 |
| road east and south |
0.9 |
B4459 |
448 380 |
| B4459 |
0.2 |
path on right |
449 383 |
| path |
1.2 |
road |
459 380 |
| minor road northeastwards |
0.8 |
near Ffynnonfelen |
466 383 |
| path |
1.2 |
B4336 near Treetops |
476 387 |
| B4336 |
0.7 |
A485 (PH nearby) |
482 389 |
| various minor roads |
2.1 |
Mountain Gate |
503 391 |
| unfenced minor road |
1.7 |
Pen Llwyn-uchel |
518 388 |
| unfenced minor road |
1.9 |
Mynydd Llanybyther |
534 393 |
| unfenced road through forest |
2.2 |
exit from forest |
555 395 |
| minor road |
3.0 |
B4337 |
577 389 |
| B4337 |
0.3 |
Rhydcymerau |
579 387 |
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We had serious difficulties at the start in
reaching the bottom of a deep wooded valley,
the Nant Gwyddil. After much exploration we have now found a satisfactory route
and you should have no
difficulty if you follow it
precisely as the most awkward stretch of the right of way is avoided by passing to the right
of Blaencwm Farmyard (not a right of way - ask the farmer's permission, he is very helpful) You must
then locate the stile at
417 376, currently marked with an arrow, and then all is straightforward,
(stiles and waymarking) although
the ford at 419 382 may be rather full of water.
After crossing the ford you should have no further problems until the
"footbridge" at 438 383 which probably won't be there. You will probably
get wet feet again. For 1 Km after 451 383 there are serious diffuculties at field
boundaries caused by dense vegetation and barbed wire - almost the last
such problem you will meet on the whole route
For the rest of the walk today, gates are available at field boundaries and the walk
finishes with a fine, invigorating stretch of mountain road. |
total for day 22.2 Km
distance from St David's 134.5 Km
Day 8 - Rhydcymerau to Caio
distance from St David's 134.5 Km
| start at Rhydcymerau SN |
579 387 |
| minor road |
2.1 |
bridge, Afon Marlais |
589 399 |
| minor road via Maestyle |
2.5 |
Glan Tawe |
608 403 |
| minor road |
0.6 |
bridge, Nant Tawe |
613 403 |
| minor road, south |
0.2 |
Groes |
613 402 |
| bridleway |
2.9 |
Cwm Einon Fawr |
636 392 |
| farm track (?) minor road |
1.1 |
Cefntelich Lodge |
643 392 |
| minor road, south |
0.7 |
T junction |
646 386 |
| minor road via Froodvale |
1.5 |
A482, Derwen Fawr |
657 392 |
| A482 via Pont ar Annell |
1.6 |
cross roads |
665 384 |
| minor road |
1.4 |
bend |
674 391 |
| path (with kissing gates!) |
1.0 |
Caio (PH) |
676 399 |
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Comfortable walking along quiet lanes for much of the day
with a fine crossing of high ground by a bridleway from Groes. At the top, in the vicinity of 623 402, you may find that the
farmer has posted intimidating signs but there is no serious problem.
We found the pub shut at Pont yr Annell but the filling station opposite has a good little shop.
The last kilometre to Caio is bliss: old kissing gates and a sweet path
leading right into the centre of the village. You are in walking country again. |
total for day 15.6 Km
distance from St David's 150.1 Km
Day 9 - Caio to Nant-y-Bai nr Rhandirmwyn
distance from St David's 150.1 Km
| start at Caio SN |
676 399 |
| minor road |
0.4 |
Bron-ffin |
678 402 |
| track, east via Coed y Frena |
1.0 |
enter Caio Forest |
686 404 |
| path, northeast in forest |
2.7 |
exit from Caio Forest |
702 421 |
| path over moorland |
1.8 |
Rhyd Ddu |
713 431 |
| bridleway, north |
0.5 |
corner of forest |
712 435 |
| bridleway over moorland |
3.4 |
Mynydd Mallaen |
736 447 |
| bridleway over moorland |
3.8 |
cross path |
766 437 |
| path, north |
1.5 |
Maes-llwyn-y-fyddau |
765 449 |
| back along minor road |
0.5 |
Rhandirmwyn bridge (PH) |
767 447 |
| B road, over bridge |
0.3 |
Road junction, Broncwrt |
769 449 |
| B road, southeast |
0.8 |
Nant-y-bai |
776 446 |
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You start by walking up-hill through Caio Forest and the a
fine traverse of a splendid, deserted piece of high ground, Mynydd Mallaen
No problems in route finding here if the cloud is high but if the
cloud is low you must take great care after leaving the forest.
At Rhyd ddu, we found it necessary to cross a deep
stream, more like a lake some years ago but now considerably improved thanks to the
Pontarddulais Walking Club. The summit cairn is a fine spot
for lunch and a rest with big views forward and back. On the way down,
at 766 437 most people seem to go straight down to the road (no actual right
of way) Our route here, from 766 437 to 765 449, following a right of way is
indistinct and involves
perhaps the last serious barbed wire and undergrowth of the whole 23 days. Celebrate this with a drink and chat with the local farmers at the pub at Rhandirmwyn bridge |
total for day 16.7 Km
distance from St David's 166.8 Km
Day 10 - Nant-y-Bai nr Rhandirmwyn to Nant y Maen
distance from St David's 166.8 Km
| start at Nant-y-bai SN |
774 446 |
| road |
1.9 |
bridge at Gallt-y-bere |
772 459 |
| over bridge |
0.2 |
Gallt-y-bere |
772 460 |
| minor road |
3.5 |
Troed-rhiw-ruddwen |
771 478 |
| bridleway by Afon Doethie |
5.2 |
Nant Lluest-fach |
772 516 |
| bridleway |
2.1 |
Nant Llwyd |
784 524 |
| bridleway |
1.8 |
Soar y Mynydd |
785 534 |
| minor road |
6.3 |
Tregaron/Abergwesyn rd |
763 576 |
| minor road west |
0.3 |
bridge near Nant y Maen |
762 577 |
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Completely straightforward with very varied scenery and an
interesting historic chapel. At 776 464 you should walk a few paces to your right to get
a famous view of "Junction Pool" where the rivers Tywi and Doethe meet with much froth and fury.
The chapel at Soar y Mynydd, the most remote in Wales, is very famous.
Services are still held there on Sunday afternoons. |
total for day 21.3 Km
distance from St David's 188.1 Km
Day 11 - Nant y Maen to Pontrhydfendigaid
distance from St David's 188.1 Km
| start near Nant y Maen SN |
762 577 |
| bridleway north |
0.9 |
Nant y Maen |
762 585 |
| bridleway west |
0.5 |
bridleway junction |
758 585 |
| bridleway northwest |
1.8 |
ford over Camddwr |
751 593 |
| bridleway |
2.8 |
ridge near Garn Gron |
742 610 |
| bridleway |
2.5 |
forest entry |
741 628 |
| bridleway through forest |
2.3 |
leave forest |
745 647 |
| track |
0.4 |
Talwrn |
745 649 |
| track (stream?) |
1.2 |
Strata Florida |
746 657 |
| path beside Teifi |
2.2 |
Ponrhydfendigaid |
730 666 |
|
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The first section of the walk as far as 741 628 lies across easy, open moorland,
wild and beautiful. If the cloud base is low, please
take great care over navigation.
A small detour to the summit of Garn Gron is very well worth the effort and
the cairn makes an excellent lunch break. The location of the forest entry at 741 628 is crucial
and without a GPS take great care. The safest thing is to walk down the forest boundary
until you come to the obvious right of way entry point.
There may be some uncertainty at Talwrn
but you won't get into serious difficulty. Do stop to look at the abbey at
Strata Florida and at the grave of Dafydd ap Gwylim in the churchyard next door. |
total for day 14.6 Km
distance from St David's 202.7 Km
Day 12 - Pontrhydfendigaid to Cwmystwyth
distance from St David's 202.7 Km
| start at Ponrhydfendigaid SN |
730 666 |
| path beside Teifi |
2.0 |
footbridge |
746 658 |
| minor road (Teifi pools walk) |
3.3 |
junction near Tyn Cwm |
770 655 |
| track, bridleway |
3.1 |
Llyn Egnant dam |
791 667 |
| track north |
1.9 |
T-junction |
794 680 |
| open moorland |
2.0 |
Llyn Du (SW end) |
799 697 |
| open moorland |
1.5 |
Llyn Fyrddon Fawr east |
802 708 |
| open moorland |
1.9 |
track in Nant Milwyn |
801 726 |
| track |
0.8 |
Milwyn cottage |
796 729 |
| track via Tynewydd |
1.6 |
bridge |
789 737 |
| 'white road', road |
0.4 |
road on right |
789 740 |
| minor road |
1.5 |
Tainewyddion Uchaf |
791 749 |
|
You start by retracing your steps towards Strata Florida and then
there is easy walking to 794 680. A great psychological moment is then reached when you
have to start walking across a wild, trackless moor towards an invisible objective.
This is one of the best moments of the whole walk and the Lake is not all that easy to
find as it lies above the land you are on and remains invisible until you are almost
on it. Careful navigation is essential until you have sight of Cwmystwyth,
particularly if the cloud is low.
The route then goes uphill to an excellent accommodation address (see the
accommodation page details for day 13
|
total for day 20.0 Km
distance from St David's 222.7 Km
Day 13 - Cwmystwyth to Ponterwyd
distance from St David's 222.7 Km
| start at Tainewyddion uchaf SN |
791 749 |
| minor road |
0.3 |
path off left |
791 752 |
| path |
0.2 |
same minor road |
790 753 |
| minor road |
0.8 |
edge of forest |
783 752 |
| path past Gelmast |
2.4 |
The Arch |
765 755 |
| road |
0.1 |
track off left |
764 756 |
| track |
3.1 |
Rhostyddn Fach |
738 762 |
| road (B4343) |
0.3 |
bend |
736 764 |
| bridleway, path |
0.9 |
Devils Bridge |
737 769 |
| A4120 west |
0.7 |
path on right |
735 770 |
| path down through wood |
2.0 |
footbridge |
727 782 |
| road, track south east |
1.0 |
bend back left |
734 777 |
| track sharp left steep up |
0.9 |
T-junction at top |
737 782 |
| minor road |
0.6 |
Ystumtuen |
735 786 |
| minor road |
0.5 |
Ty-hir |
739 789 |
| path |
2.2 |
Bryn-bras |
747 801 |
| farm access track |
0.8 |
George Borrow hotel |
746 805 |
|
Today's route offers a wide variety of terrain with one or two
places where the right of way is difficult to follow on the ground. With care
you should have no trouble until after Devils Bridge where the path in the wood
in the vicinity of 735 770 has been changed from the route shown on the map.
There is a clear sketch map posted showing the change.
The other major problem occurs when you are going downhill at 746 792 where
the left turn uphill is not at all clear. We could find no
trace of a path from that point until reaching the farm access track at 747 901.
The Arch, see photo and the River Rheidol near 727 782,
see photo are both great spots for breaks..
Devils Bridge, itself is an overpopulated pourist spot but the famous triple bridge at 742 771
see photo is well worth a visit and only needs a fifteen minute diversion.
The George Borrow Hotel (see day 14 accommodation) is a peaceful and romantic place,
full of associations with the great George Borrow who stayed there after walking south
from Machynlleth over Plynlimon as you are going to do in the reverse direction tomorrow!.
|
total for day 16.8 Km
distance from St David's 239.5 Km
Day 14 - Ponterwyd to Esgair Hir
distance from St David's 239.5 Km
| start at George Borrow hotel SN |
746 805 |
| A44 through village |
0.6 |
A4120 |
749 808 |
| A4120 |
0.3 |
Bryn Rheidol |
751 807 |
| bridleway |
1.0 |
Banc Bryn-chirith |
759 810 |
| B4343 |
1.7 |
A44 |
771 814 |
| A44 |
0.5 |
Dyffryn Castell |
775 817 |
| path |
1.9 |
Blaenpaithnant forest |
781 832 |
| path |
2.2 |
N end of forest |
784 851 |
| path |
2.2 |
Plynlimon summit |
790 870 |
| open hillside |
0.5 |
minor coll |
788 874 |
| open hillside |
1.1 |
bend in pipeline |
786 885 |
| open country |
0.7 |
foot bridge |
785 891 |
| bridleway |
2.6 |
ruin by A Llechweddmawr |
762 889 |
| bridleway |
0.6 |
ford at Nant-y-March |
761 894 |
| bridleway |
1.0 |
ford at Nant-y-Ci |
758 902 |
| bridleway |
0.7 |
enter forest |
753 905 |
| bridleway |
2.2 |
leave forest |
735 912 |
| bridleway |
0.4 |
Esgair Hir old mine |
732 912 |
|
Plynlimon is, in my view, much underestimated. It has wildness, solitude,
wonderful views and historical associations as well as being the great watershed of Wales.
If the day is fine, the walk over Plynlimon is not to be missed.
If the weather is awful, however, and you don't like high country in mist,
you have the (poor) option of skipping the highest part of
the day by following the minor road from 748 808 right through to Maesnant at
775 882, continuing straight on to meet the given route at "footbridge" 785 891.
Don't do this unless conditions are terrible - you will probably be sorry in retrospect!
The 2.6 Km from the footbridge to the ruin was very rough and slow when
we did it but conditions improve dramatically from then onwards.
See the accommodation page, day 15 for details of the problems at Esgair Hir
|
total for day 20.2 Km
distance from St David's 259.7 Km
Days 14/15 "Two days in one" alternative - Ponterwyd to Machynlleth
avoiding the transport problem at Esgair Hir
distance from St David's 239.5 Km
| start at George Borrow hotel
SN |
746 805 |
| A44 through village |
0.6 |
A4120 |
749 808 |
| A4120 |
0.3 |
Bryn Rheidol |
751 807 |
| bridleway |
1.0 |
Banc Bryn-chirith |
759 810 |
| B4343 |
1.7 |
A44 |
771 814 |
| A44 |
0.5 |
Dyffryn Castell |
775 817 |
| path |
1.9 |
Blaenpaithnant forest |
781 832 |
| path |
2.2 |
N end of forest |
784 851 |
| path |
2.2 |
Plynlimon summit |
790 870 |
| open hillside |
0.5 |
minor coll |
788 874 |
| open hillside |
1.1 |
bend in pipeline |
786 885 |
| open country |
0.7 |
foot bridge |
785 891 |
| track north |
4.0 |
un-named building |
782 926 |
| track west |
2.0 |
over shoulder of Mynydd Bychan |
768 922 |
| track north |
2.0 |
300m NE of Hafodwnog |
765 939 |
| track |
2.6 |
Bwlch y Groesen |
767956 |
| keep on north west |
2.3 |
Mynydd Bach |
756 972 |
| track via Bwlch |
0.7 |
Bryn Coch Bach |
754 977 |
| track steep NNW |
0.5 |
forest |
756 980 |
| track in forest along ridge |
1.5 |
forest exit near Parc |
757 964 |
| path NNW |
1.5 |
near industrial estate |
754 006 |
| minor road = Glyndwr's Way |
0.5 |
A489, Machynlleth |
751 008 |
| A489 |
0.1 |
Maenllwyd Guest House |
751 008 |
|
This is a long day for most people. Its principal merit is that it avoids
the difficulty of arranging transport to and from Esgair Hir.
Most of the route is covered by the notes to the previous and next days.
The new stretch, 8 Km from 785 891 to 765 939 is all quite straighforward
If you are getting very tired by the time you reach the junction of tracks
at Bwlch y Groesen, you can take a safe option by walking straight down to
Tyddyn y Plas 774 963, and then to Machynlleth along the minor road. Easier route finding,
easier terrain but not such a good walk. |
total for day 30.4 Km
distance from St David's 269.9 Km
If you have used this alternative, all subsequent distances from St Davids
will be 5.8 Km less than indicated
Day 15 - Esgair Hir to Machynlleth
distance from St David's 259.7 Km
| start at Esgair Hir old mine SN/SH |
732 912 |
| forest/miners' track |
3.0 |
Angler's Retreat |
746 923 |
| track |
1.7 |
Llyn Penrhaiadr N end |
754 935 |
| cross country |
0.6 |
miners' track |
759 934 |
| miners' track |
0.7 |
Hafodwnog |
763 938 |
| track |
2.9 |
Bwlch y groesen |
767 956 |
| keep on north west |
2.3 |
Mynydd Bach |
756 972 |
| track via Bwlch |
0.7 |
Bryn Coch Bach |
754 977 |
| track steep NNW |
0.5 |
forest |
756 980 |
| track in forest along ridge |
1.5 |
forest exit near Parc |
757 964 |
| path NNW |
1.5 |
near industrial estate |
754 006 |
| minor road = Glyndwr's Way |
0.5 |
A489, Machynlleth |
751 008 |
| A489 |
0.1 |
Maenllwyd Guest House |
751 008 |
|
The charm of today's fairly short walk lies in the gradual transition
from wild mountain scenery to civilization in the shape of the quite large
town of Machynlleth.
There are no serious route finding problems until Bwlch y Groesen, although the section marked "cross country" is a
trackless link joining two clear tracks. However, take great care at Bwlch y groesen ,
where many tracks meet. The correct one is outside the wood, going fairly steeply uphill.
The scenery as you approach Machynlleth is very good, particularly, perhaps, near Mynydd Bach.
You may not find exactly the route we found as you approach the town but it will not matter much.
|
total for day 16.0 Km
distance from St David's 275.7 Km
Day 16 - Machynlleth to Abergynolwyn
distance from St David's 275.7 Km
| start at Machynlleth B and B SH |
751 008 |
| A489 |
0.6 |
Machynlleth clock |
745 008 |
| A487 |
1.4 |
Dovey bridge |
744 020 |
| A493 |
0.3 |
turn off on left |
741 019 |
| lane |
0.9 |
Cwm Gila |
736 023 |
| lane (left fork) |
0.9 |
enter forest |
733 028 |
| forest track, old road |
1.6 |
Pantyspydded (ruin) |
728 040 |
| forest track |
2.0 |
near Foel y Geifr |
720 052 |
| open hillside |
0.5 |
Foel y Geifr summit |
716 051 |
| open hillside, forest path |
1.8 |
Pont Llaeron |
701 049 |
| path/old road |
2.2 |
Hendrewallog |
687 063 |
| track, surfaced road |
1.3 |
Abergynolwyn |
677 069 |
| road through village |
0.3 |
Riverside house |
676 072 |
|
Leaving Machynlleth on a main road is not much fun
but unavoidable. This is the worst traffic you will meet on the whole route.
The lengthy forest section is better than you might expect: much of the
forest has been felled and there are some good views. Once in the forest
you can work out your own way to Pantspydded, The most direct passes 728 035,
where it is easy to miss a left fork. There is a further point of uncertainty just before the
open hillside at 720 052 where we actually used a fire break to attain the open ground.
The ridge of Foel y Geifr offers superb view forward and back and is a place to linger over.
From there to the delightful old bridge at Pont Llaeron, you can more or less
make your own way but a good track goes through the
forest if you find it.
As you descend, Abergynolwyn looks most inviting. See
the picture
|
total for day 13.8 Km
distance from St David's 289.5 Km
Day 17 - Abergynolwyn to Barmouth
distance from St David's 289.5 Km
| start at Riverside House SH |
676 072 |
| road |
4.3 |
Pennant farm |
674 096 |
| bridleway via Gwastadfryn |
3.4 |
Hafotty Gwastadfryn |
678 123 |
| Pony path |
2.8 |
col (Cader Idris 2 Km) |
691 135 |
| path |
1.0 |
junction left |
695 142 |
| path |
1.2 |
road |
690 150 |
| minor road |
1.4 |
path off right |
678 145 |
| path past Llyn Cregennen |
1.3 |
road at far end |
659 146 |
| winding gated road |
1.8 |
Arthog falls |
648 145 |
| path beside falls |
0.3 |
Arthog |
646 146 |
| road through Arthog |
0.8 |
bridleway off right |
638 143 |
| bridleway |
0.2 |
old railway |
638 144 |
| old railway bed |
1.3 |
Morfa Mawddach Stn |
628 142 |
| Barmouth railway bridge |
1.7 |
Barmouth |
619 155 |
| road |
0.4 |
Bryn Melin Hotel |
620 158 |
|
A great day's walk, particularly if you have the energy
to include the summit of Cader Idris by going right at 691 135, following the
easy ridge for
just over 2 Km and therefore adding slightly more than 4 Km to the day's distance When deciding whether to do this or not,
bear in mind that the detour involves an ascent of 300 m but that the rest of
the day, though quite long, is very easy with virtually no
more up-hill.
The rest of the day is full of interest. Arthog falls are delightful and the
Barmouth railway bridge gives romantically beautiful view of the Mawddach estuary. |
total for day 21.9 Km
distance from St David's 311.4 Km
Day 18 - Barmouth to Llyn Cwm Bychan
distance from St David's 311.4 Km
| start at Bryn Melin Hotel SH |
620 158 |
| minor road |
3.5 |
Sylfaen |
632 185 |
| track |
2.2 |
path crossing |
638 203 |
| path |
2.3 |
Cairn (alt 572m) |
638 224 |
| path on old coach road |
2.1 |
Pont Scethin |
634 236 |
| bridleway |
2.7 |
Road in Cwm Nantcol |
631 257 |
| minor road |
2.7 |
Nantcol |
640 273 |
| path? |
2.7 |
Llyn Gloyw (south end) |
647 297 |
| path |
2.5 |
Llyn Cwm Bychan |
646 316 |
|
This interesting route is probably the easiest way of getting
across the Rhinogs. If you want something tougher, try the alternative below.
Before reaching Pont Scethin, an extraordinary bridge in the middle of nowhere
(see the picture) you pass a stone saying
"Courage Traveller", a timely piece of encouragement.
After walking out of Nantcol, the terrain suddenly changes completely and
becomes really difficult - the notorious Rhinog boulders and heather -
you will find progress very slow until you leave Llyn Gloyw on a decent track
leading to the so-called "Roman Steps.
|
total for day 20.7 Km
distance from St David's 332.1 Km
Day 18 and part of day 19, alternative route - Barmouth to Trawsfynydd
avoiding the transport problem at Llyn Cwm Bychan at the end of day 18
distance from St David's 311.4Km
| start at Bryn Melin Hotel SH |
620 158 |
| minor road |
3.5 |
Sylfaen |
632 185 |
| track |
2.2 |
path crossing |
638 203 |
| path |
2.3 |
Cairn (alt 572m) |
638 224 |
| ridge, northeast |
2.8 |
Diffwys trig point |
661 268 |
| ridge NE then NW |
3.2 |
Y Llethr cairn |
661 258 |
| descending ridge northeast |
1.2 |
col |
666 266 |
| descending traverse |
0.5 |
Llyn Hywel, NW corner |
662 268 |
| path past Llyn Cwmhosan |
1.6 |
Bwlch Drws Ardudwy |
660 280 |
| path through bwlch |
0.8 |
Y junction |
665 282 |
| left fork, NE to forest |
1.0 |
enter forest |
670 291 |
| forest tracks |
3.0 |
Hafod Gynfal |
676 314 |
| leave forest, path north |
2.3 |
Wern fach |
682 333 |
| track |
0.7 |
road |
687 335 |
| road |
2.6 |
Trawsfynydd foot bridge |
702 348 |
| foot bridge, path |
1.0 |
Trawsfynydd |
707 354 |
|
This alternative route is given to avoid the problems of transport at Llyn Cwm Bychan, where there is no accommodation.
It follows the standard route above as far as 638 224 but then
continues along the ridge, culminating in Y Llethr, the highest point on the Rhinog range.
After leaving the summit cairn, do not go left down a steep
eroded descent which
leads to a path round the left side of Llyn Hywel; continue to the end of the
summit plateau and descend a gully to the col, walk all the way across the
col until Rhinog fach looms in front of you and then drop steeply to the left,
passing to the right of Llyn Hywel.
If you want to climb Rhinog fach, do so from the col. It is
safer then to return to the col rather than to traverse Rhinog fach
A GPS is strongly recommended for the forest section. The area
North of the forest leading to Wern Fach is usually extremely wet and you will be faced by
a network of small streams.
This is a long day but the scenery near Llyn Hywel is top class. |
total for day 28.9 Km, compared with 30.5 via Cwm Bychan
distance from St David's 340.3 Km
If you take this alternative, all subsequent totals from St Davids will be 1.1 Km less than indicated
Day 19 - Llyn Cwm Bychan to Pont Dol y Moch
distance from St David's 332.1 Km
| start at Llyn Cwm Bychan SH |
647 316 |
| dotted path |
0.6 |
right of way |
646 318 |
| path |
2.1 |
col at about 450m |
659 333 |
| path |
2.8 |
Wern fach |
682 333 |
| track |
0.7 |
road |
687 335 |
| road |
2.6 |
Trawsfynydd foot bridge |
702 348 |
| foot bridge, path |
1.0 |
Trawsfynydd |
707 354 |
| road |
0.8 |
crossing A470 |
708 361 |
| path/track |
3.9 |
near Roman fort |
708 389 |
| bridleway |
1.8 |
crossing A470 |
705 404 |
| bridleway |
1.1 |
Cynfal waterfall |
706 412 |
| path above river |
2.3 |
Pont Tal-y-bont |
687 416 |
| minor road |
0.2 |
rubble park nr bridge |
687 416 |
|
It is not easy to find the path at the start but it is there.
Be patient. There are no further navigational difficulties although just before
reaching Wern fach (where the ground is extremely wet) you may find yourself
in difficulties getting past a maze of streams. Trawsfynydd lake is pleasant but
not outstanding and Trawsfynydd itself
is a tiny, typical Welsh village. The Roman Fort is worth a short detour but
the best point on the walk is the little-known Cynfal waterfall,
remote and beautiful - once quite a famous tourist spot.
An easy day but very wet just before Wern fach. |
total for day 19.9 Km
distance from St David's 352.0 Km
Day 20 - Pont Dol-y-Moch to start of Watkin Path
distance from St David's 352.0 Km
| start near bridge SH |
687 416 |
| minor road |
2.6 |
path beyond Bronturnor |
665 412 |
| path in woods |
1.4 |
Llyn Mair |
655 412 |
| road (B4410) |
0.6 |
Near Tan-y-bwlch Stn |
651 414 |
| through station |
0.3 |
road |
649 416 |
| minor road |
4.2 |
Croesor |
631 447 |
| path on old road |
2.6 |
Bwlchgwernog |
611 452 |
| minor road |
2.0 |
Nantmor |
598 461 |
| old railway |
0.1 |
gate on left |
597 462 |
| path |
0.2 |
Pont Aberglaslyn |
595 462 |
| path, E side of river |
0.4 |
link to old railway |
594 466 |
| old railway |
0.9 |
Ynys Dol-lleian |
592 474 |
| path |
1.2 |
road |
593 484 |
| minor road |
1.4 |
Sygun mine |
604 489 |
| path |
3.0 |
past Llyndy Isaf |
628 502 |
| minor road, then A498 |
0.7 |
car park nr Watkin Path |
629 627 |
|
You are now approaching the major mountains of Wales and days
21 and 22 give you lots of opportunity, weather permitting, to enjoy real mountain scrambling.
This day is designed as a rest day and, although the distance is over 20 Km,
it is a very easy day indeed.
The route originally included the old railway tunnels at Pont Aberglaslyn but work is now well in hand
here on the Welsh Highland Railway which will restore these tunnels to their former use so
they are no longer open to walkers.
We have therefore modified the route to include a beautiful short river walk
instead. (Try
the Welsh Highland Railway route website
for further information).
At 592 481 you can walk left into Beddgelert, a tourist honeypot only 100 metres
from the route. (see the accommodation page)
If all this is too easy and you want to climb something today you can turn right at the top of the
hill after leaving Croesor and
follow the easy ridge to the top of Cnicht, returning by the way you ascended.
Cnicht looks very spectacular from Croesor but is actually a simple walk.
|
total for day 21.6 Km
distance from St David's 373.6 Km
Day 21 - Start of Watkin Path to Pen-y-Gwryd
distance from St David's 373.6 Km
| start at car park SH |
628 507 |
| 'white road' |
1.0 |
Hafod-y-llan |
629 513 |
| track |
0.8 |
path nr Llyn Gwynant |
635 515 |
| path |
3.9 |
electricity works |
654 541 |
| track |
2.1 |
layby nr Pen-y-Gwryd |
660 557 |
|
The route given here does not follow the Watkin Path to the
top of Snowdon but offers agreeable, easy walking, ideal when the cloud base is low. If
conditions are better, however, and you don't need an easy day,
you will want to walk over Snowdon, or at least over Lliwedd.
There are basically three possible routes, all of which start by following the Watkin path
as far as the col at Bwlch Ciliau 619 537. Here, the easiest alternative goes right over
Lliwedd 626 532 and then down to Pen-y-Pass 647 556. If, instead, you go left
at the bwlch and climb steeply,
you reach the summit of Snowdon 610 544, and follow the railway down to 608 547,
where you may either leave the ridge and descend right (by the miners track)
to Pen-y-Pass 647 556, or, if you have plenty of energy and a good steady head,
you may continue along the ridge to
Crib-y-Ddysgl 611 553 and Crib Goch 625 553, again finishing at
Pen-y-Pass 647 556. Of these alternatives, the last is undoubtedly the best.
At Pen-y-Pass, do not walk down to the Pen-y-Gwrhyd. Finish the day
at Pen-y-Pass (see the accommodation page) and on day 22 walk the modified start
(see the next days detailed notes |
total for day 7.8 Km
distance from St David's 381.4 Km
Day 22 - Pen-y-Gwryd to Ogwen Cottage
distance from St David's 381.4 Km
| start at layby near hotel SH |
660 557 |
| road (A498/A4086) |
0.4 |
start of miners' track |
661 559 |
| path |
2.7 |
Glyder ridge |
667 583 |
| path |
1.0 |
Bwlch Tryfan |
662 588 |
| path |
2.3 |
Ogwen Cottage car park |
649 604 |
|
As on day 21, the route given here is ideal for low cloud.
If the cloud base is high you will probably prefer to continue from 6678 578
straight to the top of Glyder Fach 656 683 and across the roughest mountain terrain
in Wales to Glyder Fawr 643 579, descending to the right of Llyn y Cwn and, leaving the high
plateau at 639 587, walk past Llyn Idwal (either side) to Ogwen Cottage
If you finished day 21 at Pen-y-Pass, you will not need to go down to
Pen-y-Gwryd to start your day but will climb gently from the Hostel
, leaving Llyn Cwmffynnon on your left and contouring round to join the standard route at about 662 567 |
total for day 6.4 Km
distance from St David's 387.8 Km
Day 23 - Ogwen Cottage to Bangor Cathedral
distance from St David's 387.8 Km
| start at Ogwen Cottage car park SH |
649 604 |
| minor road |
5.3 |
Bridge near Tyn-y-maes |
633 643 |
| path |
1.2 |
A5 nr Plas Penisarnant |
631 652 |
| main road |
0.5 |
Ogwen Bank |
627 654 |
| path in quarry |
0.8 |
start of cycle track |
623 656 |
| cycle track |
1.5 |
end of cycle track |
615 663 |
| minor road, then B4409 |
0.8 |
path near Tanysgaffell |
614 668 |
| path |
1.1 |
road near Braich-talog |
607 674 |
| minor road |
0.4 |
path |
607 677 |
| path |
0.5 |
Tregarth pub |
605 679 |
| road (B4409) |
0.5 |
start of cycle track |
601 680 |
| cycle track |
4.1 |
road nr Tyddyn-mynyddig |
587 707 |
| minor roads |
1.5 |
path nr water co. site |
581 716 |
| path |
0.5 |
Bangor |
581 718 |
| small town roads |
0.3 |
Bangor cathedral |
581 721 |
|
This is a much more interesting day than it appears on the map.
Easy navigation for the most part and some fascinating quarry scenery. The cycle
track, which makes the day unique, is not shown on the map. Incidentally, we saw no cyclists.
The route finishes by neatly arriving in Bangor without using any roads until
you are only 100 metres from the Cathedral.
Tregarth pub was not open at lunch time when we were there, but the landlord
obligingly opened specially for us! |
total for day 19.0 Km
distance from St David's 406.8 Km
|
